Fr. Maximos in America Magazine
Congratulations to Father Maximos of Holy Resurrection Monastery who had an article published in the current issue of America magazine. Though I am not a great fan of this magazine usually, it is found in churches and libraries all over the country. This article is well worth the read.
Pictured above: the monks of Holy Resurrection at a traditional Pontifical Requiem Mass in San Diego, found via the New Liturgical Movement site. As our deceased Pontiff would say, we see here the two lungs of the Church together.
posted by Arturo Vasquez @ 12:00 AM
21 Comments:
Hooray
You finally mentioned the last Pope in a positive light
Love your comments on Ochlophobist re: communion wafers.
Arthur:
The Ochlophobist gave your heretical Roman wannabe Anglo arse a real spanking.
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You may give some importance to Owen's thoughts as he is thoughtful and analytical and I think sincere.
I am not sure I understand his position on Roman Catholics. The Orthodox position on Roman Catholics (or Catholics in the 22 sui juris Churches in union with Rome) as sister Churches and both real churches to the Roman Catholic Church being not only in schism with the real Catholic(Orthodox) Church but a sort of paganism.
Owen probably misses the quasi racial reference but I am certain you mean it in jest. Calling you Arthur with all the who is poorer or more middle class is kind of funny. I personally prefer Guero to gabacho just as Too $hort would probably prefer gueras.
I didn't understand Owen's point about Orthodoxy not including the folk Catholicism of your ancestors.
I generally agree with him in principle (but not degree) on his critique of the Walmaritzation of America (but he admits his wife goes to Walmart out praciticality)
But he seems to have an impossible vision that would only lead to frustration. I also like home cooked meals from scratch but time and energy sometimes get in the way. I wish as I was mechanically inclined as Owen, but my life took me in a different path and I don't make homemade bread (but do get it hot from an Italian bakery) nor can I even fix my own car (at least not very well--pero todos los Mexicanos pueden? No?)
Owen does have a point about the Latin Rite Communion wafer vis a vis the homemade bread in Orthodox (and Eastern Rite Churches) however the size of the congregation and the different theology in frequent reception of communion may make homemade bread impractical if not impossible.
There is sometimes a feeling of McChurch even in the Catholic Church (and certainly in the Protestant Mega Churches some times literally with Starbucks and McDonalds in the Church with the Neocon Christian Zionism and Success oriented theology) with big box Churches (although the Catholic Church has a lot of lot of people to serve)--the Orthodox Temples are usually smaller (absent some big Greek ones) which can provide more intimacy. It is hard to get intimacy in many big Churches regardless of demoniation.
I kind of understand Owen's criticism of Whole Foods--luckily I make enough money to shop there (Bling Bling) Certainly healthier food is good. I do agree Whole Foods is expensive. However, there are natural and homemade relatively inexpensive alternatives. Maybe I am slow but Owen's thesis is not that well developed and convuluted.
I believe that God is merciful to those who eat factory food and take our cars to mechanics and eat unleavened factory Latin wafers.
I certainly like part of Owen's philosophy but again think it is unrealistic and would lead to frustration (at least for my weak self) It seems similiar to some who follow the Catholic Distribuitionism philosophy.
I do think in the sense of Christian charity (I know you consider Owen to be a full Christian in a genuine Apostolic Church but does he?) you should make up as the "I am poorer than you" is not the most mature Christian discussion I ever encountered.
I also do not think it is fair that some posters link you to a hedonism due to hip hop due to your support of the Theology of the Body by the last great Pope John Paul II (as you are not a supporter of the Theology of the Body nor a fan of the last Pope)
The Marxist thing I could chalk up to youth and rebellion. The Byzantine thing is still in union with Rome and the Eastern stuff is cool. BUT I don't understand the Anglican thing--I know you said you needed money...but.....
You are the only Mexican I know that was/is an Anglian.
Well, I am going to get up go to Mass--eat some factory wafers not made by hand and than go shop at Whole Foods because I am a weak, flawed, Boogie, middle class, modern, technology driven, not mechanically inclined ROMAN CATHOLIC.
Lastly, I have hair. Were you in the movie American Me?
also, don't be a hater on Owen
1. He is poorer than you
2. You don't eat homemade bread
(mi abuela could make great homemad tortillas but she is with God now and now I just by them)
3. He can fix things himself--you can just qoute Ficino and write poetry
seriously--Owen is thoughtful, interesting--albeit eccentric
and I enjoy reading him and think he has many valid points
but what is morality right on the scale of being a Luddite to George Jetson
He seems to exxxagerate the consequences of halloween costumes or seemingly minor things but at the same time rightly notes the almost inherently anti-Christian culture that even permeates Catholic parishes
The Oclophobist has an exagerrated sense of importance. Everything seems to be too important. Everything is going to hell in a hand basket. I am glad people posted things that he took down because he, unlike you who has a sense of humor, is being mocked. Even making fun of you was mocking Owen. There is a self importance and drama and seriousness that is ridiculous.
Life is meant to be enjoyed, have fun and funny. Not to minimize reverence and sacrifice but also not to get so ridiculous about food and many things outside our control.
Dear everyone,
I guess I didn't behave myself properly on Owen's blog. Hopefully, I have made some amends in that regard.
Even though I'd like to think I am a pretty mellow person, there are certain buttons that you just don't push, and they got pushed. First of all, I think the whole idea that we have to come up with a defense of why we use factory made wafers is pretty insulting. But enough has been said about that, so I won't say anymore.
Secondly, I do think that nostalgia for simpler times is counter-productive, and I have said this before very recently on this blog. I am not at all that far removed from a time when the women in my family had to make their tortillas and gorditas everyday from scratch. My grandmother did every morning, right before she went out into the fields to pick cotton with my father and his three other siblings. And she died at the age of 72 wracked with diabetes. So I am glad that my surviving grandparents, who worked all of their lives in the fields, can live comfortably and don't have to make another tortilla in their lives if they don't want to. (Every Saturday morning, my mother makes fresh tortillas in my grandparent's house, along with fried beans and some meat. Good stuff.)
And the fact that my generation never has to do this I don't find sad in the least. My significant other's father came from a share-cropper family in Louisiana and worked his way to being an engineer with Shell. His daughters didn't have to suffer poverty like he did, and I don't think any less of my significant other's childhood because she didn't go through the same things I did. If his children now want to capture some element of "the simple life" now, I guess that would be their perogative. But it was his job as a father to make sure that they didn't HAVE TO. (This is not to mention all the Jim Crow laws, that probably forced many African Americans to live a "simpler life" in the South for obvious reasons.)
I don't like to wear my race or my disadvantaged background on my sleeve, and only if you read this blog religiously (which I hope you don't) you will find some hints about it. But it is still very much a part of me, and if you try to mock it, I am going to bark. That is just how it is. At the end of the day, no matter how much I write about Neoplatonism, liturgy, French baroque opera, or poetry, when I get stopped by the police, I am fully aware that if I breath wrong I could be eating pavement in a hurry. (I know because this has nearly happened.) I know people make automatic associations with my name before even seeing me, and I know that people make assumptions about me before they even meet me. Welcome to America, 21st century. If anything, this blog is my dream of a higher, more beautiful reality, accomplished in God through Jesus Christ.
Owen seems to be pushing a lot of buttons, lately, and riding his usual hobby horses pretty hard. His attack on Catholic communion bread is, in my opinion, pretty weak, something I've mentioned on his blog and mine.
Can't you at least grow some hair?
Mr. Vasquez,
Perhaps I'm a "relative" of yours since my last name is also Vasquez.
I'm actually a "white boy" with a French mother and an English biological father who was adopted by an Hispanic, ( Chicano), step-father who married me mum in France while in the U.S. Air Force.
I ended up with them in the U.S.A. when I was 9-10 years old.
So...I know a little about Chicano culture but I don't speak Spanish, ( pardon me). It took me ages to regain some of my French because of cultural/linguistic isolation.
But I remember very well how gracious, kind, and welcoming my step-grandmother, ( who is the only grandmother I know), was, embracing me right away, saying mi hijo.
She too worked hard all her life raising five boys and one girl. All are now solid middle-class Americans who've also raised children.
She always used to make tortillas when visiting my step-father, ( my sisters loved those tortillas with butter, flour tortillas .) She also made the best menudo I ever had and her cooking, though simple, was superb.
She passed away a few years ago. My uncle took it upon himself to remove her from a rest home in Texas to bring her to his house in San Jose. He'd converted to some evangelical Christianity and took away her rosary and prayer cards.
She got very sick and ended up in hospital. That's when I had the opportunity to get her a rosary, ( which she kissed and put round her neck), and have a Catholic Byzantine/Melkite priest give her communion, ( she knew what was going on, believe me). I'm proud of doing that to honor a woman of deep faith, ( Orthodox in the real sense of the word).
So...I get pretty sensitive when people spout about poverty and so on or make critical remarks about Latino culture.
I've had to put up with my share of stupidity, judging me by my last name and worse since my first name, ( being French), is often taken to be a woman's name.
I'm Orthodox, "converted" 25 years ago but I still "feel" Catholic as well, having no need to renounce or denounce Catholicism since it's really just next door, not across the highway, so to speak.
The Ochlophobist is an nteresting character who suffers from convertisis. He seems to think that he's found the Truth when all he's really found is a road. He still has to make the journey himself. Having a map doesn't mean you've arrived.
Anonymous,
That's a nice story. I think I know what Melkite priest you are talking about: Fr. James Graham. I've been to his church.
And as for the hair, I have a pretty bad case of male pattern baldness, in spite of my young age. The S.O. thinks I should grow it out, but I just got tired of looking at my bald spots, so I did the deed.
I think you made the right call by shaving it off... I've been begging my wife to let me do the same.
Sean,
You could say it's for this:
http://www.stbaldricks.org/
You do look a little like a cholo with the bald. As you say people judge you on your name and look and bald hispanics sometimes appear as gangbangers. Owen can be Micklo.
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